jASON: Is there a difference between perception and opinion?

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One might say that Stephen King is the greatest writer ov all time.

istoba: laughs

Alright, let's solve this.. No more 'Mr..' I don't know anything'

Perception is awareness. opinion is thought on awareness, which can understandably and sometimes intentionally and with good purpose, isolate and exclude aspects of the entirety of the thing perceived.
 

j: But how can 2 people perceive something so differently-

i.e. one thinks King is a great author

Another thinks he suks
 

i: I think I used the example of the 10 artists in the room painting the picture of the nude woman. They all paint it differently. But in all of them you can recognize the woman.

Naked

Naked!
 

i: Well, perception would involve Stephen King. Anyone's thoughts on him would be their opinions. Representations of how they feel inside. I'd say positive opinions emerge from events and things that make one feel good, and negative the opposite. But not everyone has to like the same things. Everyone does need to agree on major things that affect everyone, such as those that pertain to the basic necessities of life.

Our priorities are wackless.
 

j: Well

Everyone hates spam.
 

i: That's part of the anxiety and frustration I feel, and quite effectively blame and judge myself over.

My inability to stop contributing to the current system.
 

j: Why isn't it outlawed?
 

i: It is outlawed.

Congress passed the CAN SPAM act 2 years ago.

But not in Russia.

And many other nations.

Which is where most of it comes from.

But spam is not a life or death situation.
 

j: Well
 

i: Or is it?

Hmmm
 

j: I am against outlawing spam.
 

i: I happen to not mind spam.
 

j: It's my right as an American to receive it
 

i: laughing

Write your congressman. He'll listen.

With a form letter.
 

j: I like snail mail spam.

I like to send them stuff back in their pre-paid envelopes.
 

i: Like free coupons and stuff?

Or half eaten pizza crust.
 

j: Boogers

Cat litter.
 

i: Ewwww
 

j: Their own spam torn up.
 

i: laughs
 

j: I've heard you can tape a brick to it, and they have to pay.
 

i: I want to live in a civilization designed by you.

'free brick enclosed'

Brick meet face.
 

j: hahaha

"thank you for your offer of a credit card with 21 % interest- in return I've sent you a nice brick for your enjoyment..."
 

i: You know that questionable movie Donnie Darko had that line about that guy who thought cellar door was the most beautiful sentence ever. He was wrong. It's brick meet face.
 

j: Donny Darko was awesome!
 

i: See. I inserted my opinion into Donnie Darko.
 

j: It introduced the world to Jake Gyllenhaal.

From which we got "Brokeback Mountain."

Yay!
 

i: You mean the slummy semi goth teen world.

But that girl in it was alright.
 

j: Brokeback Mountain?
 

i: D darko.
 

j: Yeah

She was also in Saved

And Life As a House.
 

i: I regret all of those movies.
 

j: hahaa
 

i: :D

Lets talk about teeth

They're so...

... resourceful.
 

j: Toothy.
 

i: And toothy.

Couldn't have put it better.

Truth is tooth.
 

j: And there's sooo much truth decay in the world.
 

i: I think we're going to be 70 chatting on MSN and talking this same way.

laughing

We've got to focus!!

FOCUS on....
 

j: Truth decay.
 

i: The pixels on the screen.

Each pixel, contains the answer to everything ever!

And many pixels together, though merely 1s and 0s, form an irresistibly undeniable image of a smoothly gradiated and tan half naked extremely attractive female lingerie model.

The 1s and 0s match the sequence in my mind associated with attraction and desire. But it's all so automatic. How can I turn it off?
 

j: Big hammer.
 

i: Without inflicting pain!

That's it. Let's talk about pain.
 

j: What kind ov pain?
 

i: Any pain

Pain in general.

What is pain?

Mere resistance?

Perceived resistance.
 

j: A warning sign.
 

i: So it's purposeful?
 

j: Mostly.
 

i: Where did it get its purpose.

What is its origin?

Would it matter to know?
 

j: It is built in.
 

i: Would it make a difference

Who built it in
 

j: To most living things.

I wonder if plants can feel pain?
 

i: I think so

I hope so!

Because I strangle this plant every night.
 

j: What kind ov plant is it?
 

i: I'm just making it all up. But that brings up an excellent topic of discussion. Imagination. The best nation in the world!
 

j: Don't know much about that.
 

i: You're a master of imagination.

Does it just come naturally?
 

j: Hmmm

I don't know

I was an only child for years.
 

i: Was it from watching star wars so many times?
 

j: Most ov my childhood.

That might have had something to do with it.

Being an only child.

Friendless

Raised by wolves
 

i: :|
 

j: Ahhh but that's a tale for another time.
 

i: hahaha
 

j: I have a good idea for next week's discussion.
 

i: Bring forth the idea.
 

j: The collective unconscious.
 

i: Does it exist, or doesn't it.
 

j: I think it does.

Do you?
 

i: I used to, now I'm not so sure.
 

j: Yeah, that's what everyone says now.

;)
 

i: But it does line up with my experience of waking before 5 am and feeling really energized, as opposed to waking up any time after 6 and feeling more and more drained.... and about staying up late too.

When everyone is asleep, there's more creative energy available to those who are awake.
 

j: So

When it's night here.

It's daytime in China.

Which has a larger population.

So

When it's night here.
 

i: And vice-versa... when I sleep until 11 or 12, when everyone else is not in the sleep realm, the sleep is better.
 

j: There should be less .
 

i: But China's so far away!

Not that distance really matters I guess in the collective unconscious realm.
 

j: Yeeaaahhhh
 

i: Well, collective unconscious it shall then be. I'll expect a thesis on it. And to walk away feeling as though I just attended a $1,995 seminar.

Or wait, the opposite of just attending a $1,995 seminar.
 

j: How about sitting in an alley listening to a bum go on for an hour or two?
 

i: That's perfectly acceptable.

I seek the wisdom of bums.
 

j: Some queries to think on:

How do you drop out ov the collective unconscious without using something pointy to stab your brain?
 

i: Simple: teacher permission slip.
 

j: Where do the collective unconscious thoughts originate?

How did Rob Schneider ever become popular?
 

i: That's unsolvable.

We go to our graves on that one.
 

j: With his mugging.
 

i: We should discuss graves too.
 

j: The bug eyes.
 

i: Grave sites.

Size of gravestones.
 

j: And (shudder) worst ov all...
 

i: Graves in general.
 

j: His tendency to remove clothing often and without provocation.
 

i: My mind reels.

I'd like to watch you and Rob Schneider hang out together.
 

j: hahaha
 

i: I never see any articles or mentions or pictures of him in any of the celebrity magazines.
 

j: You'll love this:

On msn

Meetings make us dumber, study shows.
 

i: Send me the link! I'll plop the article on the table at our next meeting, and declare 'insanity!!'
 

j: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17279961/
wid/11915773?GT1=9033
 

i: Oh this is gold! so goold.

Wait, we're meeting!! We're becoming dumber.
 

j: not me!
 

i: laughs
 

j: I'm so glad Britney's going into rehab

It'll do her some good.
 

i: Poor girl. People leech off of her perceived importance, and that must severely affect the psyche. How can grown men, first of all host an entertainment celebrity gossip show, and then talk about other people's personal lives like they were the most important thing in the world?

Like there was nothing more important.

A shaved head.
 

j: Yay!
 

i: It looks good on her. We should let her be.
 

j: I don't think she wants that
 

i: Why are we so interested in each other?

Rather than ourselves.
 

j: We know ourselves.
 

i: In a non-narcissistic way

Do we?
 

j: The antics ov others let us forget about our own problems for awhile.
 

i: But shouldn't we want to solve our problems?
 

j: No!

We need our problems

Our pain

Didn't you ever see 'star trek 5'
 

i: laughing
 

j: The best star trek movie ever!
 

i: I don't remember it.
 

j: That's the one where the hitherto unmentioned brother ov spock shows up and starts removing people's pain.

And they go to find god

"why does god need a spaceship?"
 

i: laughing

Just thinking about you saying that cracks me up.

ahhhhh

In other news: Peanut butter confirmed as salmonella source.

Fuck, they call this reality.

This is a joke.

Peanut butter confirmed as salmonella source?

I don't even know where I'm living.

This has to be one giant joke.

Alright! Jokes up, it was a good one. You got me.

Sigh
 

j: Perhaps he's still giggling.
 

i: I'm smiling

I like people.
 

j: Here's a good one:

I have to go to wal-mart

People!
 

i: You mean the giant rectangle!

Super rectangle, if you will.

"always, rectangular. always."
 

j: hahaha

Yeah
 

i: That is a joke.

What must you get? Can you live without it?
 

j: Water
 

i: Yikes! the essential.
 

j: And perhaps cup cakes.
 

i: Hahaaha

"yes, definitely cup cakes. now that I think more about it."
 

j: Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 

i: Thoughts of cupcakes are delightful.

Nothing wrong with thoughts of cupcakes. In fact, you could call them 'perfect' thoughts.
 

i: Have you ever known anyone obsessed with perfection? How would you describe them?
 

j: Everyone seems to be obsessed with perfection.
 

i: What about someone who doesn't care if they do a poor job at work. Or not work at all?
 

j: That's why there are so many make-up, cosmetic surgeries, stupid magazines like cosmo, etc sold.
 

i: Surely, you can't mean, not, 'lucky'!
 

j: hahaha

Lucky

I think it folded

I hope

Haven't seen one in awhile.
 

i: No. I saw it here, just last week at borders.
 

j: Swell
 

i: I thought about Liu Kang fly kicking it through the 7 layers of newsstands, but then I didn't want to set off any terrorist alarms.

And reveal my super human Mortal Kombat capabilities.
 

j: hahaha

Sonic booom!

Wait
 

i: laughing
 

j: That's street fighter.
 

i: Haiuruken!
 

j: The best

Ok

I'd better get to the mart

Wals-y
 

i: Tis' meant to be.
 

j: Yup
 

i: Sam would be proud.
 

j: Remember

Collective unconscious

Next week

Google
 

i: As would his apprentice, John Marmaduke.
 

j: Wickipedia.
 

i: Deal
 

j: Talk at you then...
 

i: I think one day we we'll appear on wikipedia.
 

j: Hell yeah!!
 

i: Sayonara! go get some cupcakes

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