jASON: adat

i: hola friend

j: what's up?

i: kickin' it

that's what's up

kickin' it ol' school

j: what's down?

what were you studying?

i: good ol' algebra!

j: ewww

i: I really feel I'm learning it though. It's as though it's filling a void in my center of logic, that's been empty since high school. I knew I should have paid attention then, but it was too high a price to pay. Friends were much cooler

j: what a terrible waste ov time

i: haha!

no no

x + y

=

y + x

see

unless you know what x and y are

j: hmmm

i: but the teacher is cool

j: why are you wasting your time with that

when they are paying people to play video games in sweat shops in Malaysia?

i: He's like this ol' school crazy guy, and he rehashes 70s textbook stuff, half visual, half logical. He doesn’t accept phone calls or email, anything you have to say or ask must be mailed to him, 1st class!

it's awesome

j: did you hear me?

i: hahaha

I didn't know that

j: they're paying people to play video games all day!

i: how can I get in on this!

j: world of warcraft

i: count me in

sign me up

take my first born son!

i: for christ's sake!

j: they have all these people they give a place to live and food and money to play world of warcraft all day, and get treasure and powerful weapons, and then rich geeks pay real money for them

i: everyone's talking about warcraft warcraft warcraft. What the hell is it! Just another everquest?

j: the people who run it make millions a year

millions!!

i: sounds like sound business plan

j: mike h. sold his everquest character for 600.00

i: holy shite

I imagine he spent more than $600 in hours of labor building it up. But there was fun involved

hopefully

j: yeah

i: yes, we need to get paid to play video games too

you and i

yes

j: it would take a lot ov money to start up a business like that

i: phssh

money

…

I had no follow up

j: haha

how much?

a room full ov computers an equal number ov wow subscriptions

i: imported illegal imigrants

*check

j: 5 bucks a day each

i: that's fair

it's fair!

j: then

i: damn conscience

j: just locate the rich geeks who would rather buy their characters stuff than play them in the game

i: isn't that tantamount to something else...? what other group of people do that? bypass the real work to get something that the whole point of getting in the first place is by doing it yourself

I'm finding it surprising the sheer number of rich geeks in the world!

j: hahaha

well

just remember that when you think that you aren't doling enough good with your time and money some people are spending big bucks to make sure that their video game character has an impressive sword

i: it's almost as ridiculous as people living their real lives out in the fake like secondlife!

j: hahaa

i: and buying islands and property in it

j: that takes real money too!

i: for millions of dollars

It's crazy.

and I mean crazy

j: yeah

i: or maybe just neurotic

but hey, this is America!

God damnit

j: there's some guy in Australia who made 900,000 dollars last year from selling stuff he made in that game

fake stuff

real money

i: the only place where I can say God damnit, and Christians can hate it (and possibly me) and we can still peacefully coexist (for a little while longer at least)

who are these people?

j: and why haven't you made any money with it?

i: Oh, I plan to

I would just feel stupid making 900 Gs for something like that

j: hahaha

i: I've devised many plans

hush hush plans

... yes

hmm hmmhmm hhmmh hahhahahahhh!!!!!!!

1st I pretend to be a geek

actually that's as far as I've got

j: hahaha

the old saying was "build a better mousetrap and you'll be rich"

now it's "build a better video game"

i: or "Steal the better guy's better mousetrap" or patent troll him!

j: hahaha

i: We could run through a list of all the possible web 2.0 business plans available to us.

Patent trolling

Video Game achievement sales

Click frauding

i: ...

etc...

j: blog... ummmm... something

i: celebrity blogging! right

“is Lindsey Lohan out of control?!”

“Is Britney Spears a sex addict?”

j: “see brad pitt's dick!!”

i: ...

etc...

i: hahaha!

that's gold!

that'll bring in the hits

those crazy horny women

j: and hot, hoott brad pitt!

i: well we're off to a lovely start.

Can't wait to see the visitors google refers to us

j: i wonder if the internet is still like 80% porn

i: I think so

Very often if you're on yahoo.com or msn.com and you look at the 'most popular searches', it's always like 90% women celebrity based

I heard they don't include graphic searches, which outnumber all others

and then every other week they have to remove the 'top searches' section and replace it with something else, otherwise it would forever be on the same searches and celebrities!

j: laura bush's bush!!

i: hurl!!!

j: hahaha

i: I'm gonna be sick for weeks

j: no smile more creepy

i: I'll second that

j: I wonder what she's on

i: I can't begin to imagine

have you been following the Libby trial?

…

j: loosely

i: remember what I was saying about 2003 being a 'setup' year, and 2007 a resolve?

It's totally playing out in his case too. but the whole thing is just so sensationalized... and not in the externally sensationalized sense, his own lawyers are doing it! They must have some crazy game plan for winning

j: like the enron guy!

fake your own death

i: I wonder how many people have successfully pulled that off those are statistics I'd like to see

PAY to see

j: i would imagine that the most uttered word on the day that was headlines was "bullshit!"

even Tim didn't believe it

i: really!

j: yup

i: I didn't even think twice about it, or doubt it.

I must be slipping

j: wow

must be California

i: It's soo nice here

j: ha!

i've seen ads for laguna beach and the o.c.

it's plastic there

fake

plastic

barbie

i: hahahhaaa

those shows so misrepresent the OC

and laguna beach!

j: 90210!

dawg

i: I was just driving home today and had a vivid visual recollection of the streets of Conroe, and how what our streets and roads look like are worlds apart... but I never really noticed it in any attentive way before!

OC Choppers

j: guess what's going on tomorrow

i: a festival of some sort?

taste of the town!

j: you got it!

i: Oooohh, I still got it

j: yup

i: you going

j: i think so

i didn't go last year

or since we went

in

2004?

i: I think so

We don't have anything cool like that that I know of out here

j: 2004 was the year ov nothing

it's odd it's like, I can't hardly remember that year and when i see movies that came out that year

i: 2004 was a year of comfort if I recall correctly.

j: i'm like "oh yeah, i forgot about that"

I wonder why

i: comfort to precede 2005 and 2006 which were different versions of hell

j: hahaha

i: 2007 is the finality

I can't wait

j: and 2008?

i: all bets are off

j: we should get to do the bad years over and make them right

i: from there it's all a buildup to 2012

and the END OF THE WORLD!

j: who's world?

i: oh man I can't wait

our world

this world

this one

right here. where you're feet meet the ground

j: the lightworkers will save us

i: not if I can help it!

i: hahaha

I'll be slaying lightworkers left and right

j: hahaha

i: with my superior light!

i: saber

light saber

j: so that means we have just 5 years to accomplish anything we want to accomplish

i: you're precisely accurate

j: well

depending on when in 2012

i: 12/12/12

j: if it's dec 31, we have almost 6 years

i: looks like a little less

see... 12/12/12 = 3/3/3, and 3+3+3 = 9, which is an upside down 6, which proves 2012 is the end of the world, once and for all! Proves, once and for all!

case closed

j: ahh yes

9

what a weird number

i: the number of completion

that's the number of my name in numerology

j: 9 x 2 = 18

1 + 8 = 9

i: 2007 = 2+7 = 9

j: 9 x 3 = 27

2 + 7 = 9

you can do that all the way up

i: my algebra teacher is teaching us about 'casting 9s out', and parity checks

j: what about imaginary numbers

i: hahahaa

I'm so laughing

that's funny even without the punchline

j: like eleventeen and seventy-ten

i: those are just concatenations of numbers

you mean..

erlgellyto moot

j: froopatillion

i: that's my lucky number!

the wonderful thing about life, is you can just make stuff up!

of course nature always breaks down and destroys anything you make up

but you get a few minutes at least

j: ha

not my snowman!

i: hahahha

do you have a snowman in your front yard?

j: yes

he'll never die

i: he's so dead

just wait for hurricane....

... emilio!

and the whole state of Texas, it's gone

breaks off into the ocean.

People thought California, but sometimes life surprises you

j: nuthin can hurt the lone star state

i: I tell people about my t-shirt idea at work and they get a good laugh,,, about the Texas state outline and in a script or italicized font ... "Texas ain't so big"

I'll wear it on my next visit and get shot

j: hahaha

we got snakes here that could swallow you whole

i: r u kidding

“I wear snakes as condoms”

i: hahaha

that was a chuck norris joke

j: nooooo!

i: I don't know who started those chuck norris jokes, but they crack me up.

Some of 'em

j: nooooo!

i: hahahaha

not a chuck norris fan

hhahahaaa

this is gonna be good

is that you slicing your wrists?

j: git er dun

i: hahahaaa

man, I wish I had some iced cream

j: mmmmmmmmmm

i: hahaaa

I just had one of those $1.50 Jeno's pizzas

I could frickin live off just those

pizza and ice cream is the american way

j: you and scott stapp

i: noooooo!

you invoked stapp!

j: (his solo album didn't do as well as expected)

i: the end of the world has been accelerated by 2 years

I don't see what stapp's solo album failure has to do with Jeno's pizza

how dare you disgrace Jeno's name

how dare he

how dare I!

j: do you think there'll be a creed reunion before 2012?

i: I think that is what begins the end of the world>

on 12/12/2012 creed reunites, and as they walk onto stage, the sky rips apart, and scott stapp is pulled up into a crucified pose (just like in the higher music video) and it turns out scott stapp is jesus>>, and all the christians are REALlllll let down

the end

like a really bad movie too

j: hahaha

sold!

i: I bet you could sell that script to a studio

j: like my extended version ov "passion of the christ"

i: "Starring scott stapp!" we must own the rights to this movie!

i: oh boy

j: where jesus takes off on the cross and flies around firing lazers out ov his eyes

then he becomes a satanist

i: hahahaaahahaha!

j: and all the kids like jesus now

they're like "whoa- jesus was into satan?!!!"

\m/

i: classic!

I'd see it

I'd pay $8

not 10

j: are there any theaters that are 10 there?

i: oh my yes.!!

j: crazy

i: $11 and up to $16

for the IMAX but those are in 3D too sometimes

j: insane

i: see, here in california...

hahahaa

we believe in the rainbow of fun priced for the average vacationing american family

j: the movie industry is worshipped, and money is heaped upon it in an orgy ov unspeakable depravity

i: amen!

movies are magic

j: a young child is brought to the alter, to be eaten by stephen speilberg in one giant gulp

i: deeeesgusting

j: movies ARE magic!

except forrest gump

i: they LITERALLY are

j: that movie was like watching a large infected turd

that everybody pretended to like

i: I don't remember it, but I trust your judgment

j: because if they didn't they'd be accused ov hating retarded people

i: people, so gullible

j: hahaha

what is a movie that EVERYBODY loved, that was so obviously crap that you couldn't believe it?

i: CRASH

j: hahahaaa

but it won awards!

i: the only redeeming line in that movie, while still being poorly executed, was Sandra Bullock saying "I'm just so angry all the time and I don't know why." That was truth, and a good mirror for the world, but it was packaged in a tin foil of shit

Britney Spears won a grammy!

j: oh yeah

i: “…we live in that sunshine state where the bomb ass hemp be…”

j: so

i: “…a state where you'll never find the dance floor empty…”

j: crash didn't fool you

i: Dr. Dre

nope

luckily

sometimes I do get fooled

and then it's like the president said

he so bravely mirrors us

j: "kill them all"

i: no no... as my friend Armand says, he calls his advisors,... and they discuss the nations... "IRAQ, whad'they got... OIL? Great, let's go."

"What country? RWANDA? What'do they got? Nothing! Eff 'em!!"

j: hahaha

i: "Darfur? Eff em"

j: did you see the oscar nominees?

i: nmmmn mmm

j: BABEL

THE DEPARTED

LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA

LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE

THE QUEEN

i: I only saw the Departed, and it was enjoyable, but definitely not oscar worthy. The critics do to Martin Scorsese what the critics do to Radiohead... they criticize nothing and all ride the praise bandwagon

haven't seen the others

I was considering seeing BABEL last week, but I just couldn't find the motivation. I just have one of those small inclinations to see it, but no real interest

I've heard little miss sunshine was enjoyed by a lot of people

j: it's supposed to be like crash

babel

i: yikes... maybe I'm glad I passed

though maybe they did it better

j: maybe

did you see apocalypto?

i: nope

no interest there either

j: but mel...

the spectacle

i: haha

how did it fare?

j: i didn't see it

but he's asking for help

i: $$ wise

the $ is the defacto sign of success

you can't spell $ucce$$ without $$$s

j: or without suc

so

why?

i: meh.. tired of consuming.. need to contribute

j: why?

i: why ask why? try bud dry!

j: i want to know why

i:

hahaah

j: world of warcraft

ebay

youtube

christian heavy metal

myspace

why??

i: where would we be without the internet!

I'll tell you why

You really want to know?

i:

I'll tell you

i:

i:

i:

i:

but that's what you'd get

j: poor dimebag darrel

and david koresh

why???

i: it's in the name of humanity! which says nothing

I was just talking to a fellow associate employee contemporary at work about this very thing today

about the declared 'meaningless' to life, and declaration that everything is just dead matter... alongside the unspoken, but acted out prosecution of anything, one, or act, that kills, impairs, or inhibits others 'life', while also allowing those highest in the hierarchy to do exactly those things with impunity

why is the greatest question! And it answers everything

j: and also

(prepare for cursing)...

istoba says 

j: what the goddamn hell happened to the taco bell value menu?

i: hahahaa!

they serve breakfast now!

j: you used to could buy a HUGE pile ov food there with 1.75!

i: hahaaahaa!!!

where's the value!

Oh the humanity!!

Taco Bell Headquarters are here in Irvine... want me to egg their 200 story building for you?

or better yet... hamburger it

j: yessss!!!

i: I'll In-N-Out Burger them

but boy howdy do I miss Culvers!!!

with scoopy the mascot!

j: i bet they'll be at taste of the town

i: are you taking Krystal?

j: did you ever go any time other than the time we went?

i: not never

j: well

we haven't accomplished much so far tonight

i: there's still time!

j: except maintain absurdity

which is important

i: a respectable aspect of life

j: why do you think people love and crave absurdity?

i: extremeism!! HI-DEF!!! It's all so they can feel something real.

Hi-Def is a perfect example of this. You can't get any higher def than what's right in front of you, all the time, in real life, but people crave fantasy in high def. They want the movie magic fantasy to appear so real as to become real, or convince them without doubt that they are really there, and not in their rather boringly considered normal lives.

Even though that latter assumption is patently false

What’s funny is that we would categorize that paragraph and those statements as a psychological appraisal of the situation. We love to categorize, and withhold the assignment of real meanings to things. We think it makes life and understanding things easier, but it just creates confusion

Even though I've never heard the band, or the singer, there's an amazing level of creativity and truth to the Arctic Monkey's album... titled "Whatever you say I am, that's what I am not."

Think about how that covers all the bases. If you call them great, they're humble. If you call them bad, they're great... ad infinitum!

We need to actualize the truth behind statements like that, because they apply to everyone.

j: what if you call them the saviors ov rock and roll music?

i: they're not... and who could ever expect them or anyone to be? It neutralizes the types of ineffective but joyed over judgments that we're so used to assigning to every little aspect of life

j: at least if you are rolling stone magazine

i: hahaah

j: one ov the biggest farces in modern times

i: but back in the day they held their own. Back around the time of Lennon... at least as far as I can tell in retrospect

they're definitely a genre magazine

j: since this convo hasn't yielded a lot ov wisdom and discussion

we just need to fill it with buzzwords that will lead people here from search engines

i: I thought the taco bell bit was PhD worthy

j: we've already got a lot

i: hahaha

j: myspace, brad pitt's dick, the oscars, youtube, rolling stone magazine...

what can we add?

...angels that give out free bacon!

i: hahaaaha

j: wikipedia!

i: we'd bring these people in, but then what would we do with them?

We'd have to convince them to click ads so we'd get paid so we can continue discussions like these

j: Boutros Boutros-Ghali

i: sex

j: sex + Boutros Boutros-Ghali ?

i: hahaaa

Oreo cookies

I search for those ALL the time

Valentines day

Liberal loonies

American Idol!!!!!

j: hahaha

that's what the world's obsessed with right now

i: How about "I'm a fucking dimwit, please help me please. I want to ask for help but I can't, and would never type this into a search engine connected with my google account."

Pretty all encompassing

j: true

the world at your findertips

i: Windows Vista!

Apple iPhone

the whole 'nipple slip' and questionably legal child porn seem to be big things. Maybe we should discuss that a little so that if they find this site doing a search for that, we can help them overcome their problem(s)

You could talk about the book you wanted to write on the topic

although this could all come back to haunt us!

j: or that new movie at sundance! that's a pretty hot topic right now

i: especially with the 'wayback' machine snapshoting all websites all the time

what movie's that?

j: i can't remember the name

but that little girl from war of the worlds gets raped in it

dakota fanning

i: holy crap, I was just reading about that.

I don't remember the name either. People love controversy don't they?

It's amazing how you can neutralize truth by creating controversy

j: it's called something like “hound dog"

j: hound

i: like with global warming, or the way the bush administration did it with the WMDs

that's it

horrible name

for a movie

in my ridiculous excuse for an opinion

what do you think about that angle?

The controversy angle on this... about whether a child is mature enough to act that out (regardless of how it was actually shot or captured on film, editing techniques, etc) and whether it does good by bringing the topic out of a discussion taboo?

j: controversy is big business now

like how the new "thing" with celebrities is being racist or homophobic

then apologizing and saying they're 'sick' and asking for forgiveness, etc

who'll be next?

you can just hear their publicists

i: and it almost becomes a pandering technique anyways, because it's hashed down to an art, the right things to say to disarm the situation and save face

j: but i think they create the situation, then disarm it, on purpose

i: whether there's any heart or truth behind the words is a big unvocalizable question, because you feel it, rather than hear it in the words

I can see that

j: i don't think mel gibson did

i think he's just a nut

but kramer and that guy from grey's anatomy

i: you think they may have manufactured it?

j: yes

i: what about O'reilly claiming the kidnapped kid wanted to be with his kidnapper

j: hmmm

i think he's just an idiot

i: hahahaa

tell me what you really think!

How come the media is infested with people who appear to have little or no moral conscience? allowing momentarily for the fact that moral and conscience are terms few people understand or agree upon in the same way

why is everything about the bottom line

j: fame and fortune

i: 'everything' when it comes to public image

in private I believe more humanity, and good is evident

or at least more 'real'

It's not sensationalized or dumbed down for the mainstream

j: yeah

i: what is fame and fortune?

Validation of existence, like we previously discussed in our conversation about importance?

j: not just validation

but raised validation

you are 'special'

more valid?

i: but isn't it ironic then? being that we are all already special, unique, in the sense that you are the only you?

At the same time, we're all also human, so in a way we're 100% like and 100% unlike at the same time.

Do you think people tend to want to be just one or the other?

why is being unique so important

j: i think that people feel more important, or 'special', because more people know ov (and therefore validate) their existence

(if they're famous)

i: is it possible for everyone to know everyone?

j: i don't think

there are too many people

but we all know paris hilton

and elan gonzalez

i: never heard of him

j: haha

and that chic who was brain dead who's husband had her put down

i: it's an amazing fact half of the people who heard about her will have forgotten her name in a few years

terry shiavo

j: yeah!

but they were probably incredibly fired up about the situation at the time

i: why do we have memory banks that are so susceptible to storing this kind of information

I ask that like you're God and have the answer

but I believe you do

j: because now we're fired up about something else!

the passion

the fire

the discourse

that's what's important

not the names

i: why are we so interested in others, rather than ourselves? Or is it that we are interested in ourselves vicariously though others?

j: not just others

some others

i: I tend to always speak in 'all encompassing terms', it's a bad habit

j: people generally know more about fictional characters on tv and celebrities they've never met than they do their neighbors

i: or themselves!

I'd like to know why that is

j: well

I’ve noticed something that people do

people generally are insecure

even those who seem not to be

i: right

j: and i've noticed that people often act like other people- usually characters they admire, but even other people they know

they say things they heard the other people or characters say because when other people react, they aren't reacting to the person, they're reacting to the person they are acting like. So they’re safe, they aren't being criticized. The person they're acting like is being criticized

i: or adored

j: right

i: why do we not feel safe being ourselves with and around, and interacting with other people?

j: because ov difference ov opinion

i: that's a good answer

j: for some reason, it hurts us that others often disagree with us so much

that's one thing

i: I find that precise point to be very interesting and integral in my life and worldview. Agreement vs disagreement. And situations where disagreement is acceptable and enjoyable, next to situations where it is the opposite. I wish we could shed some light on this... the differences between the two

j: right

why is it that if one person likes bananas and one person hates bananas, it's not that big ov a deal

but if one person is gay and another isn't

it's a huge deal

i: but I think even in that situation, it's not as big a deal as it's made out to be, or confusingly believed to be... in that the only difference between a gay person and a straight person is essentially a preference of where to stick one's "cash and prizes", to quote Dane Cook.

It's not really fundamentally a matter of difference... in that we should, ideally, all 'love' each other the same...

... man or woman.

who you have the physical act of sex with, and how, is such a minor point in my opinion to the greater aspect of what being 'gay' or 'straight' means in the context of relating to and understanding others in an honest and consistent way

j: well, i was just using that as an example

i: and a good one

j: ov something that people get upset about

you rarely see someone get upset because another person doesn't like the same kind ov food or the same color as them

i: precisely.

Why does that give rise to such disagreement, when something like preference for a particular color of M&Ms is A ok

Why is sex, in a very broad way, such a powerful force and cause of disagreement.

You see it not only in the 'gay' issue, but also in birth 'abortion', dating, like/dislike attraction rejection dynamics

j: blondes vs brunettes

i: and a fundamental aspect of many neurosis like child porn fixations, molestations, etc

sex is, for many people, the one thing that represents the most satisfying experience they have had. I know in some ways for me it represents that, and in other ways it doesn't, because I've had a 'christian' religious experience that transcended that in terms of a satisfying and fulfilling experience, on top of many times where and when just driving or randomly looking at something exceeds...

the experience of sex in terms of 'best experience'

j: hmmm

i: do you think that that represents the reason there is so much discord over it? That is because it is for most people their most enjoyable experience... and they're identified with it in many peculiar ways

j: and the giving ov trust

vulnerability

sharing

but really

sex is boring

enough ov your hippie love shit

i: agreed... save for the climax!

hahahaa

j: massages all the way!

i: but it's also a big let down too, afterwards, if there's no 'connection' between the participants.

Which is why there are so many players!!

P. Diddy

massages with happy endings!

j: fiddy vs diddy!

i: they're big here in california

what is your general perspective of life, if you could sum up some essentials in a few paragraphs.

And if not, that's understandable, considering I wouldn't pin anyone's worldview down as explainable in even a 200 volume encyclopedia.

But what do you consider important?

j: importance is important

i: claps

hahahaa

but how is importance important?!

j: but we already discussed that

i: so you believe that? and it plays a significant role in shaping your worldview and actions in life?

j: it explains a lot

about human behavior

i: and helps you understand yourself in ways?

j: yes

but more so other people

i: hahaa

tired?

j: a little

not too bad

but what i mean is

knowing what motivates people helps me understand why they do the (sometimes frustrating) things they do

i: ditto

what motivates is an entire topic unto itself

and a fascinating one, I consider

It's like asking where your thoughts come from

j: chemicals in your brain

i: and where the chemicals come from

and why they're attracted to each other the ways they are.